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This is NEED TO KNOW, real talk about the
reality of unidentified aerial phenomenon.

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From Australia Ross Coulthart, from the U.S
Bryce Zabel.

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Hey, everybody. A lot keeps happening between
our shows here at Need to Know which either

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proves that UAP news is being made faster
than ever or that we need to do shows more

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often. The last time we were here was a few
days before the recent Senate UAP hearing.

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We debated doing a show the day of the hearing
full of hot takes and maybe a celebrity guest

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like we did with Lue Elizondo a year ago last
May on the day of the first house hearing.

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This time though Ross and I decided we would
take a few days to think about what we saw

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and heard in that hearing instead of a hot
take give you, I don't know, maybe a warm

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analysis. Both of us have been busy in that
time though. Ross has been on assignment for

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Channel 7 Australia and I've been working
on a couple of writing projects because it's

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increasingly likely that as a member of the
Writer's Guild of America I'll be on strike

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on May 2nd and the strike means pencils down
and hitting the picket lines instead of pounding

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the keyboards in this show we'll be talking
about that UAP hearing but we'll also touch

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on those rumors about what stories whistleblowers
have already told Congress plus that leak

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of documents on the Discord platform also
the high level classified intelligence briefing

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that just took place at Wright-Patterson Air
Force Base and of course we'll want to give

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a bit of analysis to the firings of Tucker
Carlson from Fox and Don Lemon from CNN because

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both of them have expressed on-air opinions
about the issue of UAP UFO reality so there's

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a lot to get to let me bring in my cohort
direct from the road in Australia Ross goldthart

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hey Roscoe maybe you can tell us what you've
been working on g'day Bryce how are you mate

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what's that Chinese curse may you live in
interesting times my goodness me mate what

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I I there's so much going on I'm so excited
I've just read Josh Boswell's Daily Mail story

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where he's revealed what I've known for a
long time that quite a few people have come

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forward to the Congress as well also to the
aaro the all domain anomaly resolution office

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with direct first-person information about
what we call the program and uh yes I've been

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speaking to some of those people myself and
I am in absolutely no doubt absolutely no

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doubt that these Witnesses are making these
claims that they are real people with defense

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intelligence credentials and they want to
talk they want the public to know what they

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know and uh by golly I do think we are starting
to get some momentum here my friend things

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are getting very very interesting well it
you know it certainly was a moment of cognitive

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dissonance if you will watching Sean Kirkpatrick
the new head of Arrow testify because he started

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I mean first of all the man looked like he
was in a bad mood I don't know if that's his

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normal nature he looked like I missed it Cranky
Pants didn't he honestly I I don't think he

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wanted to be there I I just kept this he had
that look like he was the Surly boy at the

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back of the class who who frankly didn't like
having the teacher demanding to know whether

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he'd done his homework and uh he just looked
pissed you know I don't know the man um but

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I will say I didn't like the man I saw at
the hearing I just felt like he could have

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tried a little harder to sound a little less
pissed off and a little more uh open and and

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it really did when I say cognitive dissonance
he kept acting like okay nothing to see here

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so far we got nothing really impressive to
talk to you folks about yet which is okay

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I guess that's one way to look at it but you
and I both know and so so does that article

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in the daily mail from Josh Boswell we know
from personal experience that he's had people

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come in and tell him some pretty hair-raising
stories now maybe he has to try to validate

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some of those stories but I don't think that's
any reason he had to behave the way he did

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yeah I think this is the key issue Bryce the
key issue now is what's going to happen next

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are the public going to be told what frankly
I know I know the Congress knows I know senior

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congressmen and Senators have been briefed
in very extreme detail right down to program

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names code names key officials locations of
storage of material I know this information

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has and is being given to Congress by loyal
patriotic Americans who've decided it's time

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this story be told and what the males revealed
this morning that there are six whistleblowers

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who've claimed that they worked on Military
UFO programs retrieving and analyzing crash

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material from non-human technology I'm told
that's true no I don't I haven't seen these

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craft I haven't seen these objects that I'm
told these whistleblowers are coming forward

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they're testifying under oath the people who
are prepared to put their their lives on the

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line by basically coming forward to Congress
and lawyer Danny Sheehan said he's in contact

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with them that he's assisting them in representing
them before the Congress they're claiming

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they've worked on Roswell style UFO crash
retrieval and reverse engineering programs

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and I know I know because I've spoken to people
on the inside there are people who have come

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forward to Congress who have testified with
this information they've given very specific

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detail now the big question is whether the
United States government the United States

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military decides to do The Honorable thing
and finally fess up about what they know we

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are I think my friend did a very important
moment in history this is a very key time

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it's uh what we call an inflection point uh
you know clearly uh something is going on

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uh our friend uh George Knapp uh from the
weaponized podcast this week said he used

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the number 24 different whistleblowers who
have met with uh Sean Kirkpatrick so whether

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it's six or 24 this is a lot of information
that this man uh is being given and sitting

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on and I I did think his statement I don't
have it in front of me but where he said basically

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we've seen nothing that would indicate this
is extraterrestrial which was kind of a way

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to Tamp down expectations um it doesn't seem
like a legitimate thing to be saying if he's

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actually been receiving people that say I
can tell you what the name of the program

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was I can tell you where it was run I can
tell you what's in it I can tell you who worked

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on it I mean those are things that that can
be looked into so if there are hearings in

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the future and and as you and I have reported
in our last podcast we think they may be even

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scheduled for June 13th they should be a little
more explosive Affair than Sean Kirkpatrick

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and if I may I just want to talk about the
Optics of that hearing for a moment you know

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maybe I've seen Godfather too too many times
but I had this image of Michael Corleone and

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Godfather II testifying to this senate committee
with the brown beautiful wood paneled walls

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and with a you know large section for an audience
and instead what we got was a couple of tables

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that looked like they've been put together
and frankly you know as someone who's you

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know run television shows that's what you
do for a production meeting you take a bunch

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of tables push them together people get around
the table and talk about what they're going

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to shoot for the the week well the truth is
that those tables not only looked cheap and

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and low rent but there was nobody at them
the best of my knowledge three people showed

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up for that that hearing and the rest were
missing why is that well the key issue frankly

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my friend is that if the public if the American
public don't tell the Congress and don't tell

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their senators and representatives that they
want this information to be brought out it

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won't be the Congress will sit on it and the
defense department and the intelligence Community

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will win the day that's simply what we are
at at the moment you might say it's an inflection

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point but the simple fact is in the testimony
that was put forward by Sean Kirkpatrick he

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testified quote Ro has found no credible evidence
thus far of extraterrestrial activity off-world

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technology or objects that defy the known
laws of physics in the event sufficient scientific

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data were ever obtained that a UAP encountered
can only be explained by extraterrestrial

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origin we are committed to working with our
interagency partners at Nasa to appropriately

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inform U.S government leadership of its findings
now the simple fact is that Sean Kirkpatrick

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knows stuff behind the scenes from Witnesses
who've come forward and one of those Witnesses

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is quoted in Josh Boswell's story Hal putoff
Hal putoff has testified that he has told

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Sean Kirkpatrick of what he knows about Crash
retrievals programs so the simple fact is

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is Kirkpatrick playing a neat game is he playing
a neat game where basically he doesn't accept

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witness evidence as credible and this is the
perennial argument that occurs in this debate

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if somebody says they've seen something are
they a witness are they credible well yes

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they are in law they are so Mr Kirkpatrick
had better be very careful because he's now

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testifying before the Congress and he has
to be very sure that he doesn't mislead the

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Congress and I appreciate he's a scientist
and as a scientist he may want to say in order

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for something to be credible he needs to see
it and verify it and scientifically analyze

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it and confirm it all being said and well
that's that's true but we're now in a case

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where he's testifying before the Congress
admittedly not under oath but it is still

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an offense to lie or mislead the Congress
and I think he and other people's needs to

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start being very very careful because frankly
I know what he knows and a lot of people know

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what he knows we're at a very interesting
point now here where public officials are

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testifying about things and I think to use
a a lovely quotation that I recall from a

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British cabinet secretary way back in my early
career when he was caught out fibbing about

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the um spycatcher MI6 witness that was trying
to publish a book in Australia he was caught

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out being economical with the truth I think
people people need to be very very careful

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that they're not being economical with the
truth because witness evidence is evidence

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it's it certainly is and and frankly in journalism
uh which is what we're practicing it's certainly

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evidence you know Sean's a quote uh that said
we have no evidence that it's extraterrestrial

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would have gone down a little better if he
didn't say it was such a sneer and with such

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uh you know obvious uh wishing he could get
out of that room I do think you're right though

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there is a lot of cherry picking of how to
exactly say things and it forces uh when uh

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news coverage to sort of have to uh you know
try to read between the lines so for example

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uh when he says there's no evidence that it's
extraterrestrial well a lot of us aren't saying

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it's extraterrestrial we we don't know we
we do know it's probably not U.S technology

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or Chinese or Russian technology so it's from
somebody that's anomalous uh and that may

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or may not be E.T so that the choice of saying
extraterrestrial uh may have been a Dodge

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also I keep noticing people you said it and
I believe in the in the Daily Mail article

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uh that you quoted from Roswell well style
well okay that doesn't actually say it but

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you can't have Roswell style crash wreckage
and reverse engineering unless that's what

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Roswell was about I think at the same time
we are getting closer and closer to uh some

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kind of understanding that Roswell itself
was an anomalous event so I think there's

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some big things playing out there right now
that um that the people well it's interesting

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because clearly you could watch the hearing
and get all upset and say okay nothing's ever

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going to happen this is this is just more
obfuscation and it's never it's never going

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to come out but on the other hand I think
as you said there are things behind the scenes

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that we know he's aware of and the Senators
who were grilling them probably also are aware

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of that because they've also met with some
of these so-called whistleblowers so at a

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certain point that Center cannot hold now
where it breaks I don't know and neither does

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anybody at this point but it sure looks like
it's getting closer yeah okay yeah maybe it

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is getting closer I mean I I don't want to
sound like I'm bagging Kirkpatrick all the

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way through here because he is a scientist
and as a scientist as a pure scientist he

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is under that obligation to ensure that he
can verify something and frankly even if he

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has walked into a hangar and looked at an
object and said Gee that looks pretty anomalous

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but let's get it tested maybe he's at that
stage I don't know but the lawyer in me is

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basically of the view that if you have multiple
people asserting that they're aware of a code

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name program that has been concealed from
the public and from a large chunk of congressional

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oversight for decades this is the program
this is the location where the technology

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is kept you don't muck around you get in there
and you get in there fast and you start looking

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before they can start hiding it and I really
do think we're actually at that stage right

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now one of the things that's very interesting
and a positive from what Kirkpatrick has talked

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about is he does even though he does play
Dan the E.T possibility he does say that um

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uh there are a few potentially anomalous cases
in all domains in the cases they're looking

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at and he does say that arrow is reviewing
these cases with the highest level of objectivity

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which is what he should be doing I mean frankly
if somebody's going to be investigating this

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then you really do want them to be doing it
with full academic rigor but it's when he

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says that the current analysis of such cases
provides no credible evidence that's fair

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thus far of extraterrestrial activity of world
technology or objects that if I defy the known

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laws of physics that's where it starts straining
credibility for me because we already have

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on the record from Arrow itself documents
where they've acknowledged there are objects

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that defy the known laws of physics objects
that are basically incapable of explanation

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with prosaic explanations and I'm talking
here of course about the 2004 USS Nimitz incident

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and the 2014-2015 USS Theodore Roosevelt sightings
off the east coast of the USA it's quite clear

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from what we're hearing from people like Christopher
Mellon and other insiders that there is a

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high degree of likelihood that there are objects
that cannot be prosaically explained and this

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is the problem is that there are on the surface
clear contradictions between what Mr Kirkpatrick

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is telling Congress admittedly not under oath
but Billy please remember this man is going

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to have to be held to a [\h__\h] for what
he says in future years if things come out

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so the simple fact is yes okay that they haven't
concluded yet that these are simply mundane

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objects that might be black projects but have
they actually gone in and kicked the tires

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and that that was my problem with this whole
hearing uh Bryce that that people like former

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astronauts Scott Kelly didn't even bother
to show up you've got Christian yellow band

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she's got the guts and the gumption to basically
call a hearing a public hearing but frankly

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I I think this is what we call a turd tied
up in a bow this is a this is a this is an

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exhibition put on for the public to try and
represent that they're doing adequate scrutiny

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and interrogation of somebody who's ostensibly
responsible for holding holding the defense

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Department to account what I do know is there's
a whole game being played behind the scenes

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right now and I don't think that Sean Kirkpatrick
is doing himself any honorable service by

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behaving the way he's behaving because I frankly
know he's Irrelevant in the scheme of things

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if that's the position that he takes he's
going to be overtaken by events Congress is

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impatient to get to the truth of this nobody
I hasten to add once sensitive technology

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that might have been developed from these
materials to be revealed and neither should

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we you know the National Security interests
should be imperative that essentially if there

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is a technology a propulsion system an energy
system that can be derived from whatever this

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technology is then yes let's protect that
but there is absolutely no reason at all now

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why the simple fact if it's true of a non-human
intelligence that's behind this technology

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cannot be revealed and that's where we're
at today how about a little confirmation look

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uh I I I I have to believe that um um our
our man who testified is not going to be on

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the job at Arrow all that much longer and
he may in fact be sacrificed at some point

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for some strategic reason but I found myself
watching the uh the testimony and thinking

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to myself uh you know it doesn't have to be
the government I mean we're talking about

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it right now because they're holding hearings
and because this is the first time in a long

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time when the government is actually copped
to something anomalous being out there so

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it is interesting that the government's uh
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just like to underline that neither Ross nor
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every morsel that the government tosses out
in my own view I think that the people are

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probably going to have to take this on for
themselves and by our own energetic attempts

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to resolve this mystery uh the government
will have to go along with that um the other

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thing is and Ross you brought this up you
said it's not like they walked into a hangar

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and had seen an object which made me think
about another piece of news from uh this week

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after the hearing uh to the best of my knowledge
a number of classified intelligence uh people

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including uh April Haynes of the uh Office
of the Director of National Intelligence all

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trekked to where Wright-Patterson Air Force
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and okay probably has nothing to do with this
but let's all remember why Wright Patterson

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is important it was the home of Project Blue
Book all right that's where all those blue

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book files uh were maintained it's where the
investigation was located and according to

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some very good research done by the likes
of Don Schmidt and others uh Wright Patterson

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is where the Roswell wreckage was actually
flown so the idea that somebody could be going

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to a hangar and seeing an object uh well if
you're going to go anywhere right Patterson

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would be a place I just wonder what what is
your take well you know what I'm going to

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tee that up but this one other thing I wanted
to say the about that hearing they showed

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a flying ball basically a flying metal ball
and I know that uh many people who have been

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watching us know that you've investigated
uh that with some that have actually been

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found here on Earth what was your take when
you saw that and uh I guess and then roll

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back into the right path thing because I find
that very intriguing as well okay I know a

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lot more than I can reveal right now but basically
yes the Spheres are important and uh some

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good work is being done right now and um I
think that the relevance and the significance

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of those objects will become apparent I've
been contacted by the way from all over the

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world I've had people contact me saying they've
seen these fears there's a guy emailed me

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this morning saying literally he was just
standing looking up and it was only a few

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feet away from him and it was the solid steel
sphere just floating in the air now I I didn't

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see this I don't know for sure but the simple
fact is that there is an enormous number of

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people saying they've seen this stuff and
I love it I've just got to love Mick West

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for his attempts to try and um uh find the
earliest quickest mundane prosaic explanation

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that he can and I noticed that he was suggesting
it was probably a balloon or a party balloon

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that was photographed do you really seriously
think that the Pentagon would release to the

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Senate and suggest that this is quite possibly
anomalous an image of an object without first

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checking the possibility that it's a balloon
I mean we really are point where frankly those

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kind of silly explanations need to be start
being actively discounted I'm told that there's

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been very rigorous analysis done that these
objects are being seen all over the world

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and if you look online I mean there's a hell
of a lot of people have contacted me with

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information that basically shows that they've
seen these fears they've filmed them you know

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they've videoed them photographed them there's
an abundance of information that is being

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slowly collated that that suggests there really
is something to that now listen just let's

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just deal with the right Patterson visit for
a moment I agree with you I don't think it

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was exclusively or anything to do with UFOs
I know that um people who went there Representatives

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who went there did go forewarned and forearmed
with curly questions on uaps and one or two

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questions might have been asked about what
they've got in their basement but the key

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thing the thing I think is very important
is that the consequence of that meeting was

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essentially an attempt I suspect uh by the
intelligence Community to provide good Optics

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to the uh Congress about what they're doing
to respond to the appalling leak of information

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by that guy texiera Jack texiera the 21 year
old guy who from the National Guard who frankly

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in an act of utter Insanity leaked highly
sensitive top secret SCI documents into a

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Discord group I think just as a pissing competition
to show his mates that he was for real um

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unbelievable what that says about the state
the current state of the U.S protection of

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its highly classified secrets and um I think
what the main meeting of Wright-Patterson

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was about was to try and provide good Optics
to the senior representatives of Senate committees

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that basically they're doing the right thing
that they're responding to that and making

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sure that they are going to all the efforts
that they can do to properly classify material

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because that case honestly it's a debacle
the full story that's behind the leaking of

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those documents is only slowly now beginning
to emerge it's a shocker and what it says

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about the Integrity of the protection of Secrets
inside the US government is just breathtaking

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and it does have relevance and I'm sure you're
wanting to talk about this my friend it does

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does have relevance on the issue of uaps too
yeah you know I I still as as we talk here

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though I keep I just wrote down think about
it since we were on like 11 days ago we you

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know the the Discord leak the uh China balloon
aftermath the hearing that took place the

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Wright-Patterson briefing I mean wow uh things
are going on there's no question about it

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um I just wanted to uh bounce back to the
ball for a second if you will the the metal

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balls because uh years ago um I had someone
who told me a story I'm just going to give

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you this anecdotal story because it's the
kind of stuff that's out there everywhere

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uh he was uh I believe 17 years old and he
was in his backyard with the friend in the

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1960s and they were having a beer one beer
hot summer day one beer and as they were sitting

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on the back porch a sphere that he described
as being you know about yay um started flying

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around in front of them you know just flying
around the backyard flying around and they

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watched it and then being the high school
kids that they were they ran to the shed and

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got um a net a fishing net and tried to capture
this thing with a fishing net you know and

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these guys didn't make this up because as
they described it to me for years afterwards

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one of them would always call the other uh
after a couple of years and say um by the

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way uh you know that thing that happened did
that really happen and the other would say

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yeah yeah that really happened and then they
talk about how their families were so we've

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learned to live with a high degree of craziness
out there and it's all kind of coming home

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to roost um can I make a point here that I'm
aware of just so you know I mean as you know

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we did that sphere story last year and it
is still under investigation um but I can

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tell you I have had hundreds of people from
all over the world contact me with photographs

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videos uh accounts of seeing identical objects
and um at what point do you basically go all

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of these crazy people are crazy um all of
them are basically saying that these were

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solid intelligently controlled objects that
weren't balloons they were close enough for

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them to see that they were solid metallic
objects and people are seeing these from all

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over the world one of the guys who contacted
me was in Africa in a very remote part of

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Africa uh this is real I don't know what it
is but it's real and and it boils down I mean

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this is the This Is The Perennial issue I
mean ultimately the way in which people have

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liked this have been able to be marginalized
and stigmatized for years is that before the

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internet it was very very easy to isolate
and stigmatize and ridicule one person who

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came forward with the sighting and that's
what's been done that's what's been done for

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most of the last 70 years but let's have a
look here Bryce of what's happening the lesson

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of what's happening right now is that mainstream
media has unwittingly colluded in that kind

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of ridicule stigma in taboo and frankly I
admitted I've been part of it and my history

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as a journalist in mainstream media but what's
happening now is there is a tyranny of the

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commons people are coming forward they're
able to post stuff on YouTube they're able

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to post stuff God forbid on Discord such as
top secret SCI documents you know and and

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this stuff can be posted and democratized
people can access it and make their own judgments

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and the ability of the powers that be and
and I do they have used influence to try and

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constrain and they still are to try and constrain
what the mainstream media reports the the

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ability of the powers that be Now to control
that narrative to basically stop people from

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knowing uh and analyzing and collating information
that's going and it's going very very quickly

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and and the interesting thing here is that
the mainstream media is making itself largely

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Irrelevant in the way it's failing to cover
this issue it's got its head in the sand it's

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still locked into that stigma it's allowing
its National Security reporters to be excessively

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influenced by the Pentagon on the intelligence
community and while that's happening you've

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got this slow rise of awareness on social
media and other platforms where people are

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going you know what there's too much of this
there's so many witnesses saying the same

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thing that's what's different now there is
momentum because of this wonderful technology

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the internet and and of course I was also
a little shocked that Sean Kirkpatrick chose

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as one of his two clips to show a metal sphere
or at least what looked like a metal sphere

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but you know uh thinking back to the empty
table that had a few Senators mostly gillibrand

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at one end and Sean Kirkpatrick at the other
end saying where are all these people why

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aren't they there well probably because of
stigma probably because they didn't want to

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be associated with a committee looking into
the UFO issue uh because politically maybe

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they don't know how it's going to play yet
um and and by the way just a quick correction

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the senator who didn't show up as Senator
Mark Kelly I believe I'm sorry Mark Kelly

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my apologies yeah it's yeah twin brother Scott
it's easy to get confused you got two twins

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astronauts um but then the other thing uh
to go along with your media analysis is uh

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what did the media almost in lockstep do they
took the one paragraph graph that you already

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read from Sean Kirkpatrick which said basically
we don't have any evidence they're extraterrestrial

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so the media basically just took that that
was their story uh nothing to see here they're

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not extraterrestrial uh we're done move on
they didn't have a report they didn't have

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reporters who actually knew enough about the
topic to dig in and dimensionalize why he

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might say that or what else he knows that
he's not saying or any of the things that

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we've been talking about here so uh the media
just proved once again that it's still stigmatized

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on this uh this topic so we we are living
in a time where we seem to be doing the one

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step forward and a couple of steps back and
then a couple more it's it's give and take

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we're not quite there yet so one of the things
I I said at the beginning is that you and

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I rather than do the hot takes I wanted to
think about it a little bit so I know that

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you have been on the road and you've probably
had some time in those lonely hotel rooms

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to think about the big picture issues such
as what what is going on here I found myself

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listening to that hearing and you know other
than the fact that I didn't like Sean Kirkpatrick

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I got irked that the meeting was so empty
of senators who I think should be there particularly

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you know forget the UAP UFO idea what what
about the shoot Downs of these so-called Chinese

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uh balloons and so forth what and what about
the leaks and all that why wouldn't that attract

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a full group and I just ended up getting frustrated
all over again saying I feel like we're all

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in this alone and we have to all come together
as Citizens to solve the problem because the

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government isn't quite sure how to do this
yet that was my take what was yours okay well

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what I do know is that there was a private
hearing that was held in addition to this

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public hearing and former astronaut Kelly
did attend that private hearing and and so

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did other members and so there's a dog and
pony show going here mate where you've got

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the public being fed that simple line from
uh Mr Kirkpatrick where he basically asserts

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that there is no credible evidence of anything
anomalous and yet behind the scenes I know

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for a fact they're being told entirely different
stuff inside the private hearings and and

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so is also the Congress uh in separate hearings
uh so yes uh Kirkpatrick may be holding a

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line publicly for a certain reason and he
may be using the um the constraint that as

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a scientist he needs very very solid evidence
to reach a highly reasoned conclusion but

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to me I mean one of the key issues and one
of the reasons for that public hearing was

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to essentially do a dog and pony show to basically
show the public that Senator gillibrand is

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still holding his feet to the fire but the
simple fact is my friend that as gillibrand

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in her opening comments observed the budget
only requested um enough funding to defray

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the operating expenses of Arrow it included
almost no funds to sustain The crucial research

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and development necessary to support a serious
investigation and as she rightly observed

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it took a letter from secretary Austin to
secretary Austin that's the secretary of the

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Department of Defense from Senator Rubio that's
the Republican senator Marco Rubio and me

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and 14 other Senators to get the office temporary
relief for the current fiscal year so the

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real issue my friend is yes maybe Dr Kirkpatrick's
got a point maybe the reason why he hasn't

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yet done the kind of scientific investigations
that he needs to be able to do is because

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he's not being given the resources to properly
evaluate it and and maybe the simple fact

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is that he's basically being gacked that he's
he's not being given the the things the tools

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that he needs to ask the right questions maybe
that's what's behind his frustration and maybe

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that's what he was conveying to the committee
members in the private hearing and also look

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frankly I do think we do need to acknowledge
here Bryce that if and I say if if we truly

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are on the verge of momentous Revelations
about a non-human intelligence if that really

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is the case there are big decisions that need
to be made because if the United States has

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recovered non-human technology and I'm told
that committees in the Congress have been

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told exactly that by multiple Witnesses if
that's true then the decision needs to be

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made about what the American public could
and would and should be told about that and

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it's it's not an easy one I mean I I'm not
somebody as a journalist I've learned to respect

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the importance of black World projects I've
learned to respect the importance of making

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sure that our military and our intelligence
Services can do things unimpeded you know

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it's it's it's very easy for media to to say
this should all be outed it should all be

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revealed but there are good reasons let's
let's acknowledge you know we're looking at

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the fact that there's a imminent war with
China but everybody seems to be talking about

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not if but when does the every possible likelihood
that if the ukrainians basically invade Crimea

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that a tactical nuclear weapon might be used
by Putin in in Crimea God forbid and what

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happens if the Iranians do manage to get enough
weapons grade to plutonium to be able to build

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a bomb before the end of this year do you
really think that the American government

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and the Israelis are going to allow that to
go unchecked I don't and so we're at a very

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very dangerous time right now and I can understand
why a very top Committee in the U.S Congress

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is weighing up what the public could and should
be told I I'm with you on all that but I would

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say this when you said it's not an easy decision
as to figure out what to tell them when to

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tell them how much to tell them and you know
the all the forms disclosure and or confirmation

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could take remember they've had 75 years to
wrap their heads around this so I would hope

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that the this isn't the first time somebody
sat or if there's a non-human intelligence

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out there interacting with us this isn't the
first time in 2023 that somebody's ever said

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gee I wonder how we're going to talk about
this I mean clearly they've had a lot of time

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to do that I also take your point uh Sean
Kirkpatrick is in a hot seat he's in a difficult

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place he is a scientist I do give him all
that he he wants to attack the issue is a

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scientific one but it's also remember when
you're in charge of something like Arrow you're

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also a politician you have to figure out the
politics of how to do your job and I think

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maybe he's going to need a little bit of help
figuring that about I do also know and want

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to indicate that my frustrations notwithstanding
there are other people uh who who have taken

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the position that they thought the hearings
uh the hearing if you will uh poorly attended

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as it was uh still had some positives and
those are our friends like Micah Hanks and

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Jeremy Corbell who both ended up watching
it saying I can't dismiss all this at least

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this is what we want the government to do
we want the government to take a look at this

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scientifically and try to figure out what
what's going on so I I I think that is um

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that's that's relevant and that that's important
I I just can't get over though what you just

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told us though Senator Mark Kelly who I went
off on in our last episode and I feel like

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I'm about to do it again come on Senator Kelly
how hypocritical is it to go to the the classified

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hearing hear all the good stuff but not put
your own reputation or your own interaction

396
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with the city citizens that you represent
on the line and go to the public hearing and

397
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be a part of that and for all the other Senators
who were just empty chairs my blood boils

398
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when I see that empty room well maybe this
is the key issue Bryce maybe they don't think

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the public has the right to know what they
do know and I I think there were some very

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telling moments in gillibrand's opening comments
that I want to point people to she actually

401
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flagged that she intended to probe the multiple
objects that were shot down over North America

402
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and she observed quote it seemed that the
Pentagon leadership did not turn to the aaro

403
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office to play a leading role in advising
the combatant commander we need to know whether

404
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this will continue we need to know whether
the leadership in DOD will bring Arrow into

405
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the decision-making process in a visible way
and we need to know what role Arrow will play

406
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in interagency coordination after the National
Security Council working group do spans because

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don't forget that what happened after the
shootdowns and oh God how quickly people forget

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the U.S government the president announced
that he was creating an interagency working

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group out of the White House through the National
Security Council that would be independently

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from Arrow investigating the circumstances
of the shootdowns and what these objects were

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and don't forget my friend we still do not
know the government despite its promises has

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not revealed what these objects were in detail
they've refused to reveal the videos and there's

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been no explanation as to why they've refused
to reveal those videos as I flagged in an

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earlier podcast there is something very very
strange about the Alaska shoot done image

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and I'm told that we should be pushing very
very hard on that there is a question mark

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in my mind as to whether one of those shootdowns
the Alaska shoot down was anomalous and you

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might notice that even though gillibrand flagged
in her opening remarks that she was going

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to be asking questions about that we didn't
even get answers to that now that's the problem

419
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is the public allows these things to be flagged
in a public hearing by the senator presiding

420
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and frankly the media should have been there
to hold that this was a great opportunity

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to actually get a final answer on what the
hell those objects were that were shot down

422
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over the U.S and it's the lack of inquisitiveness
by the mainstream media that nominally have

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Carriage of coverage of this issue that I
think is the real problem because they completely

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failed the other issue that gillibrand also
flagged was that the filters on radar systems

425
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were adjusted to essentially lower the sensitivity
for detection and tracking of objects um and

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and so that that's the first time that that
happened and so the reason why we missed these

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objects in those February shootdowns the reason
why they were able to move across the Continental

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USA was because NORAD the U.S Air Force had
turned the sensitivity to a level where it

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wouldn't detect them now we still don't have
answers as to why the agency most entrusted

430
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with the defense of the United States had
turned the sensitivity of its sensor systems

431
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:23,300
to the point where they wouldn't pick up dangerous
objects National Security flight safety threatening

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objects moving across the United States and
my big disappointment out of gillibrand's

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Committee hearing was that in the public hearing
we didn't get answers even now to those questions

434
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it's now April it's months on from those February
shootdowns and we still don't have answers

435
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,589
we still don't have the videos and we still
don't know why the U.S Air Force and the NORAD

436
00:41:48,589 --> 00:41:54,240
adjusted the sensitivity to stop themselves
from detecting things that are as everybody

437
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:59,619
now knows a threat to the National Security
and flight safety of the United States that's

438
00:41:59,619 --> 00:42:04,630
the same question it's a big question and
it's so irritating I mean I just have to remind

439
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:11,710
us all again it was last month when a Russian
jet poured a bunch of fuel on one of our drones

440
00:42:11,710 --> 00:42:17,850
and we released the video of that within two
days maybe even a day so here we are several

441
00:42:17,850 --> 00:42:22,930
months past what were spoke what's being sold
to us as the shootdowns of weather balloons

442
00:42:22,930 --> 00:42:27,910
and we can't see that video uh we know it
exists but we can't see it I don't get it

443
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:33,190
that's why the public uh is probably going
to be mad the public isn't likely to get mad

444
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:37,900
when they're told the truth about something
they may be scared they may have other feelings

445
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:43,820
but not have to be mad what what gets people
mad is uh not being told things that are important

446
00:42:43,820 --> 00:42:48,710
to them as they make the decisions about their
lives so you know if the government really

447
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:54,630
didn't know what was going on at all and had
no theories and this was a brand new thing

448
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:59,410
then I guess we could all cut a lot of slack
as we began to investigate this but that isn't

449
00:42:59,410 --> 00:43:03,839
the case we all know this we've gone over
it many times on this show about how the history

450
00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:09,460
of this goes back with tens of thousands of
good sightings with all the you know with

451
00:43:09,460 --> 00:43:14,670
all the good witnesses that you can imagine
from uh Pilots to police officers and it's

452
00:43:14,670 --> 00:43:20,130
just it's it's getting old and people are
ready to to learn a little bit more about

453
00:43:20,130 --> 00:43:27,270
that so um we you know people like you and
I we could say this over and over but at some

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00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:35,180
point we need to take this action together
we need you know I'm not an activist about

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00:43:35,180 --> 00:43:41,890
ET I'm not advocating that this is ET I'm
just advocating for transparency I'm advocating

456
00:43:41,890 --> 00:43:47,349
for truth I'm advocating for confirmation
if there's a big dirty little secret that

457
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:51,920
there's a non-human intelligence I'd like
to know and if the government and the people

458
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,660
who have studied it are able to say after
75 years we don't know any more than that

459
00:43:56,660 --> 00:44:00,950
we can't figure it out we've tried to reverse
engineer this stuff we're not having any luck

460
00:44:00,950 --> 00:44:05,790
with it if that's what they want to tell us
let's start there but at least confirm it

461
00:44:05,790 --> 00:44:12,599
so uh yeah uh it's I sound like a broken record
on this show sometimes because all of these

462
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:18,340
um issues that we have to deal with kind of
go back to the beginning our Representatives

463
00:44:18,340 --> 00:44:23,500
historically and it isn't just in the United
States and it's in your own country in Australia

464
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:28,369
and it's in countries throughout the world
uh countries have no governments have not

465
00:44:28,369 --> 00:44:35,200
been forthcoming on this issue and it's probably
time to to to to start talking about it in

466
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:40,910
a more open way and you know I know our time
is wrapping up can we can do we dare do a

467
00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:47,401
little cultural dissection can we talk about
Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon can I just make

468
00:44:47,401 --> 00:44:53,140
one point first before you go to that one
of the great lessons from American history

469
00:44:53,140 --> 00:45:01,349
is that Secrets have a way of wriggling out
into the open Daniel Ellsberg leaked the Pentagon

470
00:45:01,349 --> 00:45:08,470
papers that revealed just what the US defense
department knew about the catastrophe of Vietnam

471
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:14,440
it was eventually leaked that the CIA and
other agencies had had grave misgivings all

472
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:21,540
along that there were no weapons of mass destruction
in Iraq the truth has a way of coming to the

473
00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:28,190
surface and if there's a lesson from the debacle
of the Jack texiera case where essentially

474
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:35,510
a young man a 21 year old man can grain gain
access to highly classified top secret SCI

475
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:41,190
documents it's that even the most sensitive
documents in the US government can and will

476
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:47,809
leak eventually and one of the best ways of
controlling those kind of leaks and stopping

477
00:45:47,809 --> 00:45:54,099
them is to give the public the reassurance
that you're being open and transparent and

478
00:45:54,099 --> 00:45:58,920
accountable I mean I don't understand the
motivations of a young man who leaks things

479
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:05,849
like that but what I do understand is a public
that is inflamed and angry that they're being

480
00:46:05,849 --> 00:46:12,570
misled and probably being lied to on the issue
of uaps the government has an Integrity issue

481
00:46:12,570 --> 00:46:18,150
here it has an honorable moment in history
where it can make a decision to be frank and

482
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:23,650
candid with the American public about what
it knows we're not going to cop another Condon

483
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:29,830
inquiry where essentially scientists are used
to dress up a lame explanation and to fob

484
00:46:29,830 --> 00:46:35,180
is off that's not going to happen and so I
really do think we're at a crucial moment

485
00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:40,970
in history here where either they want this
to catastrophically leak into the public domain

486
00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:46,359
in a way that they can't control or maybe
they should take a lead in government and

487
00:46:46,359 --> 00:46:51,440
defense maybe they should be talking to Media
advisors and crisis managers and thinking

488
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:56,540
about the best way of disseminating this message
because we're good people Bryce and I don't

489
00:46:56,540 --> 00:47:01,609
want to see National Security Secrets leaked
we don't want to see good people's reputations

490
00:47:01,609 --> 00:47:06,980
trashed For No Good Reason what we do want
to see is truth being told to the American

491
00:47:06,980 --> 00:47:13,900
public and to the rest of the world do you
think there is a possibility that the way

492
00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:20,510
this thing goes down eventually is by some
kind of leak of a incontrovertible document

493
00:47:20,510 --> 00:47:28,050
that confirms the otherness of this phenomena
what I am saying is there's an opportunity

494
00:47:28,050 --> 00:47:34,109
here for responsible political leadership
executive leadership to control the narrative

495
00:47:34,109 --> 00:47:42,140
in a responsible way right but to patronize
and to try to bully and intimidate and and

496
00:47:42,140 --> 00:47:47,589
use ridicule and stigma to stop people from
publishing a story it's no longer going to

497
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:53,710
hold this story is going to break whether
they like it or not and they can be responsible

498
00:47:53,710 --> 00:47:59,730
or they can be irresponsible and the big lesson
with the people in intelligence and defense

499
00:47:59,730 --> 00:48:04,800
is that when they try and cover their own
asses when they try and protect themselves

500
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:11,319
and protect their reputations the story still
gets out so here's the honorable moment for

501
00:48:11,319 --> 00:48:17,240
you in history you people you Gatekeepers
that's what I think you know I wrote a book

502
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:23,780
about it A.D after disclosure and Rich Dolan
and I who was my co-author on that we spent

503
00:48:23,780 --> 00:48:28,040
weeks discussing well how is the right way
to do this what's going to trigger it and

504
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,600
it's very interesting at the without boring
everybody with all that and we can do that

505
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:38,500
later but we did come to the the this feeling
that talking about UFOs to the public was

506
00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:44,760
impossible and yet it was inevitable you know
it's it's that super contradiction and I think

507
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,430
that's still true I think there are people
probably within the Department of Defense

508
00:48:48,430 --> 00:48:55,200
who are saying you can't possibly talk the
truth about this thing it just can't be controlled

509
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:01,180
and it will unleash things but I think uh
more and more people on the inside are indeed

510
00:49:01,180 --> 00:49:06,720
coming to the conclusion that there's no way
to keep this bottled up so the question is

511
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:12,089
how are we going to transition to the world
where we accept uh whatever the truth may

512
00:49:12,089 --> 00:49:19,190
turn out to be so yeah uh we are there and
just just to address quickly Tucker Tucker

513
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:23,339
Carlson's passing the one thing about Tucker
Carlson whatever you thought of him he had

514
00:49:23,339 --> 00:49:27,030
an ordered an audience of three and a half
million or such like right it was the second

515
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:33,109
second most watched program in the United
States what he said mattered and one of the

516
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:38,150
issues that he focused on was uaps he gave
a lot of coverage and a lot of credibility

517
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:44,369
to people coming on his program talking about
the issue of uaps and you know what his audience

518
00:49:44,369 --> 00:49:50,329
loved it they wanted it and they told him
they wanted more and full credit to him for

519
00:49:50,329 --> 00:49:55,960
doing that because as a journalist he had
the courage to go against the grain and yeah

520
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,869
there was an article in Politico this week
saying that people in the Pentagon were celebrating

521
00:49:59,869 --> 00:50:05,080
the fact that that Tucker Carlson had gone
and well they may have done well-making they

522
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:10,890
may have done this adjusted correct just to
clarify for everyone Tucker Carlson isn't

523
00:50:10,890 --> 00:50:17,700
dead I mean he's fired he's going to pop up
on Facebook it sounds like we're doing his

524
00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:22,980
obituary the truth is Tucker Carlson's going
to show up someplace else soon and he's probably

525
00:50:22,980 --> 00:50:29,190
going to keep talking about this and and he
was a mixed bag uh and and for for many reasons

526
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:34,119
on the UFO topic not the least of which is
he was accused by others of saying well he's

527
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:39,510
willing to float all these conspiracy theories
so then it it kind of marginalized the UFO

528
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:45,390
thing into the conspiracy ghetto if you will
but um nonetheless he was willing to talk

529
00:50:45,390 --> 00:50:52,339
about it openly and I think that's to be commended
and in contrast Don Lemon who was just fired

530
00:50:52,339 --> 00:51:01,220
from CNN uh at the same exact time as Carlson
was being fired from Fox I saw uh Don Lemon

531
00:51:01,220 --> 00:51:07,610
and do the handoff to Chris Cuomo on their
respective shows on CNN uh back when Cuomo

532
00:51:07,610 --> 00:51:13,849
was still on about a year ago I guess and
there was some UAP news that was out there

533
00:51:13,849 --> 00:51:19,430
and they sort of used that as their hand off
the sort of the anchor okay what do you got

534
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:25,790
what are you what are you talking about and
they both both uh Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo

535
00:51:25,790 --> 00:51:32,190
had Smiles on their faces and were acting
like oh boy this is uh this is something I

536
00:51:32,190 --> 00:51:38,670
don't want to get into it's a little too crazy
for me so I'll I'll take Carlson's admitting

537
00:51:38,670 --> 00:51:44,260
that there's a mystery and that we should
give it some reasonable talk over Don lemon's

538
00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:51,309
uh snickering about it uh so you know let's
let's hope um that out of this kind of news

539
00:51:51,309 --> 00:51:57,319
more journalists are prepared to to treat
this in a responsible way uh nobody is saying

540
00:51:57,319 --> 00:52:01,400
that we have the answers I'm not even saying
that I think the government has the answers

541
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,540
I do think they probably have more answers
than I have because they've been at it a lot

542
00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:11,119
longer they've been they've been researching
this since before I was born and and in fact

543
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:17,140
there's reports written by the U.S government
again since before I was born where they actually

544
00:52:17,140 --> 00:52:22,950
say they think it's extraterrestrial so if
it's not I'd like to hear why they now think

545
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:29,040
after the 75 years of of looking into it they
don't think that anymore so all I can say

546
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,849
uh Ross is the only good news for you and
me is it means we got many many more shows

547
00:52:33,849 --> 00:52:41,010
to come and on that note I think it's time
to wrap my friend let's say goodbye and we'll

548
00:52:41,010 --> 00:52:48,170
see you all on the next need to know thanks
a lot good to talk to you [Music] I'm ready

549
00:52:48,170 --> 00:52:59,310
to be told time for secrets [Music]

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00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:02,390
[Music]

551
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:05,480
please

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[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause]

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[Music]

554
00:54:20,610 --> 00:54:23,970
[Applause]

555
00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:50,910
[Music] you said it will blow my mind

556
00:54:50,910 --> 00:55:27,960
you say all apart no more fear that's from
my eyes

557
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:31,330
[Music]

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00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,170
together

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[Applause]

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00:56:28,580 --> 00:56:39,380
in other news

561
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tonight

562
00:56:44,750 --> 00:57:06,230
oh my gosh dude